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- May 10th 2024
Khao is going to have a game showcased at the Summer Games Fest Latin American Games Showcase, June 8th @ 1pm ET
Check it out here:
https://zeldauniverse.net/forums/index.php?thread/181422-general-gaming-arcadia-2024-enjoy-it-while-it-lasts-folks/&postID=6777811#post6777811
- Jun 4th 2024
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The "gods/spirits" issue is largely semantics. The Japanese term for both is "kami", which has been applied to every single divine entity in the series from Levias, the Deku Tree, the Goddesses, Hylia, the Zonai, I'm pretty sure Great Fairies, and so on.
That said, I don't see any reason to think the Golden Goddesses were Zonai or dragons or anything of the sort. There is no evidence of that.
- Jun 4th 2024
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I believe the GG were actually Zonai who swallowed their secret stone
This is not possible. In BOTW it was stated that the dragons are servants of Hylia. Hylia is not above the three Golden Goddesses. Also, the Dragons are referred as spirits.
In BotW, the Zonai were thought to be barbarians and the ones who were responsible for the labyrinths among other things. Try again. Open your mind my friend.
But this information that comes directly from Hylia herself. She left that message in one of the statues, that Naydra is a servant of the Goddess.
You misinterpret what I'm saying. I'm not saying the 3 dragons from BotW are the GG
- Jun 4th 2024
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That said, I don't see any reason to think the Golden Goddesses were Zonai or dragons or anything of the sort. There is no evidence of that.
There is though. In one of the murals underneath the castle there's a symbol of what looks like an animal with wings, with 3 eyes in the exact formation of the triforce. Then there's also Ganondorf saying that the Zonai must've appeared to be gods, couple with what happens when zonai swallow a stone. In the story of the 3 goddesses shaping the world, it could've been Zonai. The upon doing so, swallowed their stones and ascended to the skies, the people of the surface mistook them for gods. It's no different from early myths in real life.
I'm not saying it's conclusive or anything, but there is evidence to suggest the goddesses could've originally been Zonai
- Jun 4th 2024
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Didn't the Golden Goddesses created the Triforce? The Triforce seems miles above what Rauru or Mineru could do with their secret stones + technology. It literally holds the world together as we saw in Link Between Worlds.
- Jun 4th 2024
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Yeah, to believe that some Zonai became the Golden Goddesses is essentially to believe that most of the Hylian religion is false -- the Goddesses didn't literally make the world out of chaos, and if the Triforce existed at the world's beginning and Hylia was sent to protect it, the "old gods" who ordered it were merely Zonai, etc.
- Jun 4th 2024
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I don't think the dragons are the Golden Trio, but I wouldn't rule out them having some connections to the Zonai. We've never actually seen what the GG were so it's possible they could be anything. Just if they're "Zonai" than they're far far far removed from the Zonai we see. It's also possible they're just literal beings of light and Hylia and the first Zonai tribe were born from them somehow. Like with gods basic concepts of genetics and reproduction and relation don't have to be straightforward or logical.
- Jun 4th 2024
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The Golden Goddesses sure did lose relevancy over time didn't they
- Jun 4th 2024
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They did leave Hyrule after all. They don't interact with the world except if there is no hope left as in the adult time line with the creation of the Great Sea. It looks fitting that the different races move pass them to more active deities as Hylia.
Although I miss them from the lore of botw. The influence of the goddesses exist, but they aren't mentioned in any significant role which it's a shame.
I'm not really a fan of sticking Zonai into everything Zelda now. I think they should be a one and done tribe and that's it. To put them into every single aspect of the Zelda lore is bad retcon at this point.
- Jun 4th 2024
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Also not fond of advanced civilization comes and brings advanced technology to less advanced peoples.
- Jun 6th 2024
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Didn't the Golden Goddesses created the Triforce? The Triforce seems miles above what Rauru or Mineru could do with their secret stones + technology. It literally holds the world together as we saw in Link Between Worlds.
Its believed they did. When new info comes out, what was once believed to be true, can turn out to be false
- Jun 6th 2024
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Didn't the Golden Goddesses created the Triforce? The Triforce seems miles above what Rauru or Mineru could do with their secret stones + technology. It literally holds the world together as we saw in Link Between Worlds.
Its believed they did. When new info comes out, what was once believed to be true, can turn out to be false
Highly doubt something that's been explained in more than 4 games is going to be reconnected at this point.
- Jun 7th 2024
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They did it with the origin of the Master Sword, and from a gameplay perspective that lore is just as relevant as the Triforce's origins and the Creation. I really don't expect the Golden Goddesses to be "just" Zonai with secret stones, but it wouldn't be completely unprecedented.
- Jun 7th 2024
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Didn't the Golden Goddesses created the Triforce? The Triforce seems miles above what Rauru or Mineru could do with their secret stones + technology. It literally holds the world together as we saw in Link Between Worlds.
Its believed they did. When new info comes out, what was once believed to be true, can turn out to be false
Highly doubt something that's been explained in more than 4 games is going to be reconnected at this point.
Thats irrelevant to what im saying though. Im not talking about what is likely to be or not to be changed. Im only talking about what is possible based on the info we currently have.
- Friday, 11:27am
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If the golden goddesses are zonai. Shouldnt be mindless dragons if they eat the stone? Maybe Hylia lied, but a mindless dragon doesn't seems like capable of putting Hylia in charge.
That and, in theory, weren't the goddesses responsible for the Great Sea? They were the ones to answer when Ganon came back after Oot, right? I guess we can say that they weren't responsible. But I can't think of what else would have that much power. The triforce was separated in three and the courage was even broken. So it couldn't be a wish.
- Saturday, 2:25am
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In the "Golden Goddesses are Zonai" theory, we'd be assuming that either the goddesses are not dragons or that they're more self-aware despite draconification, hence their high status among gods.
- Saturday, 3:35am
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How I look at it, is they'd be more aware. When Ganondorf swallowed his stone, he seemed to have some sort of awareness. I wouldn't say he was exactly mindless
- Saturday, 4:04am
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I do believe the dragons in general have a sense of awareness, perhaps not of their past lives per say, but a sort of instinctual type of awareness? The Light Dragon's tears dropped all over Hyrule, each drop containing one of Zelda's memories. It had the Master Sword embedded in its head, healing it throughout time and space. It came to Link's aid during the final battle and clashed with the Demon Dragon (which, although I'm not sure how much destruction it could actually cause, certainly still retained Ganondorf's appetite for it.
There was also that quest we had back in BOTW where we had to free Naydra from its malice infestation; the Goddess Statue appears to speak on its behalf iirc. They're not completely unaware of things. They do have a sense of sentience. Just they may not fully remember who they are.
- Saturday, 4:36am
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The Light Dragon's resistance to someone touching the Master Sword is the perfect example of having both a bestial mind and a memory of the original self. It knows it needs to hold on to this sword no matter what, but it doesn't immediately recognize Link as the reason why.
- Saturday, 11:16am
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Perhaps the 3 dragons were oracles named after the Goddesses that served Hylia? The 3 elemental dragon costumes (yeah, the really useless ones) could have been their attires.
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